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Post by griffithsic on Mar 28, 2011 21:31:01 GMT 1
Tony, great photo's of your cars in the monte carlo. was it standard practice to have an off side fog light and near side spot light and can you tell me if they were independently switched? I have the same set up on my 10 (more by mistake than design I might add) and was thinking of buying another spot or fog to match them up and install a single switch. But if it was common practice to have one fog and one spot independently switched I will leave as is. Regards Ian Griffiths
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Post by PWK367 on Mar 30, 2011 19:46:51 GMT 1
Ian, it was standard practice to have the fog light on the offside and the spot on nearside when rallying in Europe.
The theory being that in a "Pea souper" you need a Fog lamp to pick out the edge of the road which in Europe for a right hand drive car is the offside.
In the UK the Fog lamp should be on the nearside.
As for switching; the work's car (PWK) one switch operates both. The Army car (RVC) the lamps are switched independently.
Out of Interest. At pre event scrutineering many years ago for the Rally of the Tests I was asked to turn all my lights on, including lamps, and then to switch to main beam. The check was to see if the spot and fog lamp went out. They did much to my surprise! According to the scrutineer that was the law. I’ve never checked to see if that’s still the case. Does anyone know?
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Post by Ian Leggett on Mar 30, 2011 20:58:36 GMT 1
The theory was that if you can use full beam then the fog cannot be that thick, as the fog makes the light into a mass instead of a beam, and therefore you do not need fog lights. With my own car I have the two "near lights" (Notek) lights wired into the main beam. They are not actually fog lights (normally yellow) but light up the kerbside when the main beam are lighting up the road ahead. With the power of the lights on these older cars I believe you need as much light as possible on country lanes I use a lot. The mot station has always been happy with the arrangement, and I cannot switch off independently. Regards Ian. (ps Notek used nearlight and farlight as their descriptions)
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Post by grahamlane on Apr 10, 2012 2:05:33 GMT 1
Thanks for all the info guys. I now have my resin model and will be building it into either a replica of the Standard 8 I used to own, my first car, or the Standard 10 as entered in the Monte Carlo Rallye. I may even buy another one so I can do both!
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Post by grahamlane on Apr 10, 2012 18:02:55 GMT 1
So, I've been fettling my 8/10 bodyshell this afternoon and decided to reproduce PWK 367 in 1956 Monte trim as in the photo above. WHP109, can you tell me how to get the colour in spray paint? Was the museum colour also used for the Monte? What was that flat metal bar across the front of the bumper for? Any info and/or photos would be a big help.
My own had the bonnet fly up one day so I can easily understand the need for bonnet straps but they don't appear on the car in the rally, only in the museum.
The heater bars under the windscreen will be fun to make!
By the way, I'm planning to run a slot car version of the Monte Carlo at the end of next year finishing on my track here in Italy but starting in various countries around the world. There will be time trials for more delicate cars and full-speed stages for more modern cars. Here is a video of the Mini Mille Miglia held in 2009, 2010 and 2011 raising 6,000 euros for Alzheimers and with official patron Sir Stirling Moss.
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Post by PWK367 on Apr 10, 2012 19:01:07 GMT 1
Hi Graham, The colour is a dark green colour called "Elfin Green" which was used on the Standard 8/10 and Vanguard Phase II for 1953 - 55 only. It then seems to have been dropped from early '56 onwards for a lighter green. The colour was used on all works prepared Tens for the '54, '55 and '56 seasons. The colour photos, taken at the Race Retro show, displays the correct colour. The Eagle eyed amongst you may have noticed the windsreen wipers pointing the wrong way! The works cars have the wipers parked to the right because they moved the wiper motor. In the pre show panic I couldn't find what I'd done with the wiper blades so just threw some normal ones on for the display. Found them now!! ;D You're correct in that the cars in period did not have bonnet straps. However, the previous owner put the bonnet straps on and having a bonnet fly up on me as well I've decided to keep them. In the original post there are three photos two of PWK 367 (monte '56 and '55) and RVC 342. For some reason the IMG for the PWK 367 '56 Monte photo has stopped working The '55 photo show a large bar holding the front bumper on. The car was involved in an accident before it even left Britain due to the severe winter conditions. Points were deducted for missing equipment so I'm guessing the bar was there to hold the bumper on!! I hope that helps. Cheers
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Post by grahamlane on Apr 28, 2012 16:33:17 GMT 1
I googled Elfin Green and found it is BS4800 14E53 Elfin Green. The colour swatch doesn't seem that dark, certainly nowhere near as dark as the car in the museum. Would that be right?
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