spud99
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Post by spud99 on Aug 12, 2020 7:57:03 GMT 1
Hi Roger. Thank you for your comments. I am beginning to find that vans are not so readly available and ate of a higher price. Morris vans i see can go for 12k upwards. I think i will now look at cars. I am drawn to a standard as they are not dare i say as common as austins etc. What would you say is best for me now in a standard car? What i like also is you guys who take the trouble to reply with such detail. Many thanks Spud.
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Post by magnet on Aug 12, 2020 9:19:23 GMT 1
Hello Spud, Not wanting to hijack Roger’s reply, but are you really drawn to Standard’s cars of the 50s and 60s, or is the brush a bit broader than that, and might extend to other marques where survival rates are similar? For what it’s worth, I think you are in a good place, if you have £8K in your pocket to spend on a bread-and-butter car of the 50s 60s, and if I were you, I wouldn’t be in too much of a rush to blinker myself to any particular model - unless this comes with some sentimental attachment. Apologies if this offends other forum members who might quite rightly defend a view of sticking with a model from Standard. Possibly also under risk of offending, but 50s 8s and 10s are probably rare in terms of survivors, since they were at the cheap end of the classic car market for a long time, and their renovation/ survival was not really economically attractive. Something ‘Rare and different’ is a great starting point, and these categories do attract, but the overall king will always be condition, and will outclass rarity, and result in the greatest attraction. Just a thought Spud. This is beginning to sound pessimistic, but you will be getting your hands dirty while delving into things like points, condensers - chokes even! - a whole ‘new’ technology. I’m sure you will soon acquire whatever new experience (if any) this needs, but I think it would help to foster relations with fellow enthusiasts in a locally based all-makes Classic car club, since these chaps often have their ears to the ground in terms of what is about. Of course, if you are restricting your search to a Standard, then joining the club would be worthwhile. Good luck Spud. Kind regards, Gareth.
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Post by standardthread on Aug 12, 2020 10:07:53 GMT 1
Spud, One of the big advantages with Standards is availability of spares, new and old, reason being, basically the same suspension components for a number of them. Identical gearboxes (at least overall dimensions and mating to engines etc.) and engines themselves, both block size and ancillaries identical. Right up to the MkIV Spitfires. Modern improvements, like hidden electronic ignition, alternator that looks like a dynamo, etc. etc.
That's why my daughter owns a Companion and I own various Heralds and a Dolomite, all basically the same bits and most mechanical parts interchangeable.
Steve
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Post by spud99 on Aug 12, 2020 18:24:00 GMT 1
Hi Greath. Thank you for you views. As you say there are many makes to choose from. For some reason i dont want a Morris car or austin as most people know one straight away. For give me other standard owners but I've not seen one for ages. Mayby not been to right shows etc. Did see one a while back and throught thats nice. Will keep looking. This is also why i came on here to get different views etc. Just thinking Greath what do you have? Also thanks to Steve for his comments.
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Post by magnet on Aug 13, 2020 14:06:32 GMT 1
Hello Spud, I think it’s great that you have a good idea what will and won’t interest you in the classic car field, and it seems a fairly important that the vehicle will appear to be rare/rarer - perhaps that was why a van? Probably repeating, but I think it may be wise questioning your decision whether you do actually want a rarer - albeit a lower than average bread and butter marque/model, where rarity really is more important than condition, but it’s always a personal choice. I think I might just keep and open mind and think about anything that appeals within your budget. Re Austin and Morris - both now have low survival rate models, but these models will be recognised by admirers, so perhaps they may not suit, if this is an important factor. Again to me, the owner/driver must be happy and comfortable with the driving experience, and not depend solely on what others think of the car. What do I have? Um, counting now! 32 Standard Little Nine, 35 Standard 12hp, 1957 Austin (Nash) Metropolitan convert. 18K miles Metro, and 36k miles ‘modern’ MG TF.- stopped counting now. Good luck and kind regards, Gareth. p.s. On points of cars of rarity and interest. An acquaintance had a smart Triumph TR6 and a rather nice (common) sit up and beg Ford. Few people talked to him about the smart TR6, but plenty did with the Ford - even relating tales of first sexual experiences in the back of one!
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Post by spud99 on Aug 13, 2020 17:48:41 GMT 1
Hi Gareth. Well i think i am a bit old to be taking about what i got upto in the bsck of a van. Lol. I trained as a truck technician and my father was a hgv driver. Thats were i think my choice of a van comes from. After reading yours and Rogers comments re rare and different.i will open up to other makes. Just seen a morris pick up that looks interesting. Well keep you podted. Many thanks for your reply. Spud
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Post by magnet on Aug 13, 2020 19:03:42 GMT 1
Hello Spud, I’d be surprised if your generous budget for a bread and butter classic car, would buy you a reasonable condition Morris (1000?) pick up - unless you are very lucky! Kind regards, Gareth.
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Post by Phil Hetherington on Aug 20, 2020 6:16:52 GMT 1
p.s. On points of cars of rarity and interest. An acquaintance had a smart Triumph TR6 and a rather nice (common) sit up and beg Ford. Few people talked to him about the smart TR6, but plenty did with the Ford - even relating tales of first sexual experiences in the back of one! Some years ago at a show with my ‘55 10 (saloon) a chap came up to talk to me and told me that his first child had been conceived in the back of one! I can only imagine they had the doors open as there is not much room in there... Rarity, although I don’t do so many shows these days, mine is more often than not the only Standard present, except at club events of course. I’ve always liked the look of the vans and estates but happy enough with the saloons.
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Post by 6cwtplumber on Dec 31, 2020 11:14:29 GMT 1
Hi there, Just as a bit of a follow up to this thread, I bought this van! Yes, they are expensive for what they are, but I'm hoping that it's going to earn its keep. It is a bit of an odd one in that it has been restored in the past and that has got rid of a lot of the clues you'd normally look for. The rear floor and rear body tub is in remarkably good condition, it has obviously lead a very easy life, certainly no builders van. I'm not sure it has been converted to an earlier front end, as am I right in thinking a '61 van should have pennant front wings? As with pretty much all small Standards, it has lost its original number plate. Does anyone in the club have any clue where this van was from? It originally dark blue in colour. It reminds me of a van that had been in storage for a long time, decades even, and been restored. It has been painted very thoroughly, inside, out and underneath, but not to a very good standard. I think it must of been used as a static advertising van for a cottage, near the sea side, so it has rusted in some very odd places, but not structurally. I have started to recommission it for regular use. I'm a plumber and intend to use it as my everyday, working van. Nicely signwritten I'm hoping it will find me a bit of work, and it gives me an excuse to use my classic everyday. Any information about this van would very gratefully received. Thanks
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Post by Eternal Optimist on Jan 1, 2021 8:29:53 GMT 1
Nice one! Can’t help with the history, but great to see you plan to put it to use.
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Post by petefoster on Jan 2, 2021 15:18:10 GMT 1
I've had a look on the club data base for your van, there is only one recent entry, presumably yourself. I've also searched the commission number on the data base but it is the only one. Yes it should have the later Pennant style wings, but several late vans seem to have reverted to early wings, presumably because spare early type wings are more common. If you know the original reg number, send me a personal message & I'll see if that comes up.
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