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Post by webmaster on Jul 24, 2020 7:26:10 GMT 1
atlasboy1960 If your friend's rubber was bought from the Club then please copy these instructions to him. screen.bmp (404.16 KB) I have to say that I didn't find it necessary to add sealant but is is necessary to use washing up liquid and two assistants to push the glass in, one on each side of the outside of the window. Hope he has more success this time. Phil
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Post by standardthread on Jul 24, 2020 9:54:04 GMT 1
ukmarc, It is not necessary to purchase the factory manual just to get the seal to fit. (you might find it useful for every likely task) As a fellow club member I will copy the relevant page and email it to you. As I have said, the manual says that you need help from a person to push the window in, I found that it required a liberal dose of washing up liquid around it (that isn't mentioned) and two people to push, one on each side of the outside of the glass. Phil As someone recently reminded me when the subject of fitting 'chrome' strip in Herald seals, or Claytonright in the Companion came up washing up liquid contains salt to prevent streaks on glass etc. Not good for steel, especially if trapped behind rubber. If I didn't use sealant (which I do) I would go for an option like beeswax or furniture polish.
To find the correct rubber profile for a car is extremely difficult, I know with the Companion rear windows (it doesn't exist). In the early days perhaps the nearest profile was regarded as 'it will do', or spend a fortune having the correct mould being made and buying hundreds of yards of rubber?
As to ANY part fitting classic cars everything depends on the correct part being sent, in good faith, to the re-manufacturer, and for them to use correct methods to copy it. It is not the fault of the person finding or sending the part, after all, if it wasn't for volunteers the fringe worlds, like classic cars, would not exist. I know how hard it is being a volunteer, been one in another sphere for decades.
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freyasgrandad
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1934 9 Deluxe. 1955 8 Deluxe, 1970 Vitesse Mk2.1968 Jaguar 420 2020 Mazda CX30 GT
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Post by freyasgrandad on Jul 24, 2020 17:59:00 GMT 1
Phil H is correct about the vent seals, those for the 50s 8 and 10 are identical to those for the TR2 and 3 as are the flaps themselves and the actuator springs. This is the reason that they are still being manufactured because if it were only for Standards no one would make them at an affordable price. Other makes that used Scuttle Ventilators included Wolesley and MG who both had very similar but larger vents and Jaguar who had very large ones. The Club's current and recent stock of these is made from modern synthetic rubber than is very durable and resistant to the elements it also fits perfectly. What I can't speak for is stock from before 2017 when I became an 8 & 10 fulfillment officer. Marc, I am truly sorry that you cannot fit the Club Rear Screen Seal and I can't offer you an explanation because we sell a lot of these in both lengths and as per Shandey's post never have any complaints or even requests for advise on fitting them. The only variable with them that I am aware of is that when cut to length it will always be too long rather than too short. If you want to contact me via the 8and10spares@standardmotorclub.org.uk address explaining what the problem is I will put you in contact with the right person. Steve
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atlasboy1960
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Location: Stoke-On-Trent
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Post by atlasboy1960 on Jul 25, 2020 23:43:36 GMT 1
Has anyone got photos of a new club rear screen rubber on there 1958 8 or 10 (large rear screen) car?
The new Aston Martin one. Not one bought 10 years ago when Tony Pounder was spares officer.
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Post by PWK367 on Jul 26, 2020 19:03:16 GMT 1
Has anyone got photos of a new club rear screen rubber on there 1958 8 or 10 (large rear screen) car? The new Aston Martin one. Not one bought 10 years ago when Tony Pounder was spares officer. When I was Club Spares Officer I supplied screen seals originally sourced by Ian Leggett from a company in Australia called "Vanguard Triumph Wholesalers" Unfortunately their Australian supplier went out of business some years ago. It was a great shame as they were indeed a brilliant fit.
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Post by IceCube! on Jul 27, 2020 19:22:14 GMT 1
As I said before anyone wants a screen seal, order it from Tony Pounder it’s a better seal.
As for knowledge, if anyone wants a PDF Service Manual (no charge), inbox me. It’s something that should in my opinion be posted for free on the clubs website, it doesn’t stop them selling hard copies for those who prefer them. I have a hard copy, and have my PDF on my phone just encase I need it etc. Used it once to tell a wheel alignment place the correct measurements and angles to align the car.
Oh and as for 2 people to push the glass, we managed to do it with just me and a friend, it’s not overly difficult. Worst part of getting the initial lip over, then it’s easy going from there.
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Post by standardthread on Jul 28, 2020 10:22:07 GMT 1
As for knowledge, if anyone wants a PDF Service Manual (no charge), inbox me. It’s something that should in my opinion be posted for free on the clubs website, it doesn’t stop them selling hard copies for those who prefer them. I have a hard copy, and have my PDF on my phone just encase I need it etc. Used it once to tell a wheel alignment place the correct measurements and angles to align the car. A very commendable offer. Perhaps equally or more helpful would be searchable pdf’s of parts’ catalogues to give ideas of where parts go and greater assembly detail if anyone has the time and resources?
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Post by IceCube! on Jul 29, 2020 22:13:15 GMT 1
As for knowledge, if anyone wants a PDF Service Manual (no charge), inbox me. It’s something that should in my opinion be posted for free on the clubs website, it doesn’t stop them selling hard copies for those who prefer them. I have a hard copy, and have my PDF on my phone just encase I need it etc. Used it once to tell a wheel alignment place the correct measurements and angles to align the car. A very commendable offer. Perhaps equally or more helpful would be searchable pdf’s of parts’ catalogues to give ideas of where parts go and greater assembly detail if anyone has the time and resources? Watch this space, I plan on scanning in my parts manual this weekend. It’s saved my a tonne of money and allowed me to collect parts local same day. I have an auto feed scanner and adobe auto creates a searchable PDF. The downside it’ll only cover and early car as I don’t have a later parts manual but 95% it’s all the same or interchange. Update: Ready to share, just PM and I’ll send it over.
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