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Post by tinawalker on Mar 15, 2007 12:21:55 GMT 1
I have recently obtained a reasonable condition drivers side front wing for my Pennant, which after stripping to bare metal when I have time to do it, looks like minimal welding repairs will be needed to make it well again. What I need now is another one for the near side in a similar reasonable condition. Does any of you out there, know where there is a spare N/S front wing from a Pennant or commercial derivative looking for a new home? If you do - let me know - My "Penny" needs a better one. I bought it from that "Arfur Daley" man 10 years ago, with a very dodgy MOT, and I am still trying to fix things today. The wings are the most urgently needed items now though. Most other things have been sorted by now Tina
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Post by herald948 on Mar 15, 2007 16:33:33 GMT 1
Tina, you raise an interesting question (at least in my mind). Many years ago here in the US (maybe still), one could purchase repair panels for front fenders. Like the Pennant, front fenders on many US cars of the 1950s and 1960s were notorious for rotting away above and around the headlamp unit -- sometimes referred to as the "eyebrow" area (as well as along or near the trailing edge). Does (or did) anyone in the UK ever make such repair panels for Pennants? Seeing as I own both an early Pennant and a 1960 Triumph 10 Estate with the Pennant front end, both of which could use such repair....
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Post by webmaster on Mar 15, 2007 23:46:28 GMT 1
The Club has made repair panels for these cars in the past. If everyone that requires them wrote to the Standard 8/10 spares officer philipbirch@tiscali.co.uk with a list of their requirements, and there was sufficient demand, its not beyond the wit of man to have more made. However, he doesn't look at this forum and if he doesn't know, it won't happen. This is one of the purposes of the club's spares scheme, so please email him.
Regards, Phil Homer
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Post by tinawalker on Mar 20, 2007 14:15:28 GMT 1
Hi Herald 948. As far as I can gather, in the UK anyway, all the new front 'fenders' for Pennants were used up on the commercial versions, after the Pennants were ousted from production by the Heralds. I was told some time ago that all stocks were used up by 1965, when production was stopped. Although I had not previously heard of the club having made panels for these in the past, I have not so far come across any of them if they survived - or not. I would imagine that as vehicles were exported to the USA it is possible that a certain amount of spare parts and repair panels would have gone there at the time. So if these were not being all used up to convert the fronts of commercials, it is not unlikely that some may have survived there, and there could still be some around today in some old garage. I was also told that with the very high cost of production man hours to make such things here, the cost today would likely exceed the value of the car itself - so would not be viable in the now small numbers likely to be needed. I have owned my car for 10 years now and have not so far seen anyone else looking for Pennant style front wings. And Yes, they also suffer badly in the same places here too. tina
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Post by herald948 on Mar 20, 2007 19:27:48 GMT 1
Tina, you are correct about exports to the US (and, of course, Canada). In fact, there appear to have been a very small number of Triumph-badged Pennants in Canada; I have a bonnet badge from one, although I never saw the car. In addition, the 1960 model year Triumph 10 Estate Wagons sported the Pennant front end, although it did not get any of the other Pennant features such as dashboard or remote shifter. These sold alongside the Herald convertible, saloon and coupe introduced in spring 1960 in the US, and 10 wagons continued to be catalogued and price-listed into 1961!
It's certainly possible that some NOS fenders still are stashed away somewhere in the US; one can only hope!
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Post by tinawalker on Mar 21, 2007 12:45:38 GMT 1
Yes hope springs eternal as they say. As you say someone out there must still have some! That would be nice. Tina
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Post by chrisjohnson on Mar 21, 2007 20:05:00 GMT 1
As an aside, British heritage shows the date of our Triumph Ten Estate as June 1959 (which is confirmed by the dates stamped throughout the car) and it too has the pennant front end. It could be that it was not originally titled until '60 (we did not get it with a title) but it is now registered as a '59.
I have seen one other with the Pennant nose but it was a '60. I will be attending the WA State all British Field Meet this summer and if I find any leads on spares I will surely send them your way.
Chris
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Post by herald948 on Mar 22, 2007 14:57:01 GMT 1
Chris, that change to the Pennant front seems to have come in on the Triumph 10 Estates somewhere at or after commission number TBE50001LSC. I have eight of these post-50000 cars listed on my Database, including yours and mine. I know for sure of only one of those with the earlier front, and I suspect that was due to long-ago crash damage repair being effected with older used parts.
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