johng
Junior Contributor
Posts: 63
Location: North Devon
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Post by johng on Aug 1, 2015 14:30:38 GMT 1
If you are still looking for a guide to the value of your car you could get a free valuation from one of the auction houses. Both swva.co.uk (South West Vehicle Auctions) and historics.co.uk (Historics at Brooklands) offer this service free online. When you have an idea if your asking price please let me know, I may be interested.
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Post by magnet on Aug 1, 2015 18:02:44 GMT 1
Now that we have the registration number, there appears to be be some potential for confusion here, and I think it needs an input from someone with "historical knowledge" and has as already been advised, this would best be done via. its commission number. I am open to contradiction here, but in my (humble) opinion - without further knowledge - is that this car dates close to/closer to 1934 than 35, but.......? However, the OW sequence of registrations suggests it could have been registered up to August 1936. Strange! But V5 and accuracy???
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Post by angels67 on Aug 1, 2015 19:02:23 GMT 1
Have just checked DVLA - it states 1934 standard 16.
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Post by magnet on Aug 2, 2015 14:13:16 GMT 1
Sort of interesting DVLA record. The car is listed with a make of "Standard 16" so you won't find it under a make of Standard. The date of record creation (first registration - on the DVLA database) is 1997 which points to the car not having been registered (here in the UK?) on the computer system between c1984 ( when DVLA took on the database) and 1997. One would guess that the club (or perhaps some independent historian) just may have been involved at that time in dating the car to the stated year of manufacture of 1934, under the then equivalent of the current V765 scheme, so perhaps there is a record somewhere in the archives relating to the registration number, until such time as the commission number is divulged. Possibility that the (current) registtration number may be non transferable? It would be under that scheme now. Now knowing the registration number, what I do know about the car is that in 1976 it was then registered to Mr. J. Clothier, of Honeycroft Farm in Devon, and was then stated to have been registered in 1934 - which is where I came in! Anyone yet dipping their toes in the water of valuation, to assist the current seller to get the best possible price?
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Post by angels67 on Aug 2, 2015 15:41:11 GMT 1
Thank you for all the information on the Standard 16, I do know that father in law has owned it since 1976. There is another - It is a 1933 Morris 10/4 doctors coupe, up and running ready for selling, beautiful condition. s49.photobucket.com/user/angels67/library/Morris
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Post by Kentishphil on Aug 2, 2015 16:12:04 GMT 1
OW registration was a SOUTHAMPTON issues No. I wonder if the vehicle records for Southampton exist. If so they will be in the County Archives. Some Counties saved the records when the DVLC took over the responsibility in 1974, some just destroyed them.
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Post by angels67 on Aug 2, 2015 16:40:11 GMT 1
Hi Everyone, Many thanks for all your comments, I have now got the Comm Number 202604 D1 - It sits on a Jag Chasis, and have owned it since 1971/1972.
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Post by johndoc on Aug 2, 2015 16:56:07 GMT 1
I wouldn't be sure about the Jag chassis, the commission number puts it as a Standard 16 Mk iv, from the commission in Oct 33, so probably registered in 1934.2054cc 6 cylinder. Standard did supply SS/Jaguar with chassis and engines, but they would not have had a Standard bonnet badge.
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Post by angels67 on Aug 2, 2015 17:06:12 GMT 1
Thank you for your info, this car seems to me to be getting rarer because it is on a Jag Chassis and does have a standard badge, I must dig out the paperwork and get this sorted out....any offer on value please...
Have just been told that the Chassis is turned upside down and it is Jag.
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Post by johndoc on Aug 2, 2015 19:41:30 GMT 1
OK. If it was an original SS/Jaguar car, (albeit it would have a Standard Motor Company supplied chassis and engine), it would be worth many multiples of what a Standard 16 would be worth. If there is any chance that it is a hybrid of some sort, with an SS/Jag chassis rails, and subsequently had a Standard body fittred, its an oddball, and the price could be either higeror lower values than an "unmolested" Standard 16 is worth. It might actually be worth approaching a high end auction house for a valuation, using the info you have gleaned here as a basis for the examination.
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Post by magnet on Aug 2, 2015 20:37:26 GMT 1
So this would still be in the same ownership as it was when it was down on the farm then Angels67?
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Post by angels67 on Aug 2, 2015 22:35:00 GMT 1
I have just been handed the paperwork for the Standard, so here goes...
It was owned by Mrs Joyce Clothier in 1965 Holsworthy - She sold it in 1967 to Mr William Moore Downend Bristol - He sold it in 1969 to Roger Tucker Bristol - He sold it in 1970 to my father in law, and it is now back in Holsworthy....So Yes we have owned it since 1970 !!!
It has an SS1 Jag chassis, there is only three left in the world (if that) and we have one of them, any value please...
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Post by johndoc on Aug 3, 2015 10:20:42 GMT 1
I doubt if you will get a proper valuation here, but I could be wrong. If anything, you may even lose value by offering her for sale at this level.
I really think that you need to approach a high end auction house.
Howvever, my last bit of help here is to put you in touch with the leading restorer of SS/Jag cars in Ireland, who should also have pointers for you re the correct people in the UK. email him at dominic.nolan1@gmail.com
Best of luck with it!
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Post by angels67 on Aug 3, 2015 10:27:54 GMT 1
Thank you for the info...x
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Post by plockley on Aug 11, 2015 15:01:09 GMT 1
The SS1 introduced in 1932 had the Standard 16 chassis according to Brian Long's illustrated history of the Standard Motor Company. Your car appears to be the original Standard model on which the SS1 chassis was based. It is probably one of three original Standard 16s remaining, though there may be others hidden away,but that does not necessarily make it more valuable than the SS1 which is presumably now the more common car as so many Standard 16s have been scrapped. I would strongly advise you to have the car professionally valued. If it is a Standard car on a Standard chassis it will not be as valuable as an SS1 but still a rare and desirable car. Even if the car is said to be on an SS1 chassis it would need to have an authentic identity as an SS1 to be valued as such. Peter Lockley
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