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Post by magnet on Feb 12, 2016 20:29:00 GMT 1
Sorry folks for continuing the Morris theme on here, but what year is it John? I ask only in relation to the centre accelerator. By what I remember the one I drove as a teenager was a 1934 4 door saloon and that had a conventional layout. Why does detail like this stick in the memory when you begin to struggle to remember some things which happened last week!? The person who was rewiring it was a good 10 years older than me and had "learned his trade" via. his Dad's interest in motor bikes. He really took time to teach me all the basics and must have been instrumental in fostering my later interest in 'classic" cars. If only we had known to be as appreciative as we should have been at the time - all taken for granted in the learning curve, and too late to show appreciation now, but....... It's still a great interest I feel. Good luck with the car. Kind regards, Gareth.
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Post by falmouth on Feb 12, 2016 21:53:11 GMT 1
My 1933 Morris Ten-Four had a central throttle, must have just changed for the 1934 models.
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Post by johng on Feb 12, 2016 22:29:09 GMT 1
Yes it is a 1933 model. It was the first of the 10s which is why the badge on the rad shows just '10'. In 1934 they introduced a six cylinder option so the cars became known as 10/4 and 10/6. They made quite a few other changes at the same time, chassis bracing, petrol pump, shock absorbers, axle ratio - all from lessons learnt from the original 10 model. Visually they look much the same which is why they all tend to be called 10/4s. The only problem with owning a 10 is that being a 'one year model' parts are scarcer - the same situation as my Little 9. But that's my own fault, I tend to buy cars on the spur of the moment and have often ended up with what I call 'in between' models. But it has quite a bit of 'presence' having such an unusual body style. Maybe I will try to bring it to the National this year and enter it in the class of not Standard.
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Post by bongo007 on Feb 14, 2016 5:08:13 GMT 1
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Post by johng on Feb 15, 2016 2:00:50 GMT 1
I've finally found out what happened to the Big 9 van when it went to auction. Firstly it was described as having been in the same family since new in 1931. The pictures show it looking immaculate. After 'some fierce bidding', to quote the report it sold for £10,200 to a bidder from Woolfardisworth in Devon. Not far from me so I'll look out for it at local car shows.
The Standard 16 was described in the catalogue as having a Jaguar SS1 chassis and being 1 of only 3 in the world. The registration is OW5555. There is no mention in the sale report as to whether it sold but if it did it must have been for less than the van.
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Post by magnet on Feb 15, 2016 9:45:01 GMT 1
Many thanks for the useful update John.
Was it entered into Kivels auction, since they seem to have a few collectors cars going through occasionally along with their "vintage" machinery?
Others far better placed than me, will no doubt comment on what I would think was a good price to achieve for the van at a provincial auction, and if the club were not aware of it being auctioned, then it would suggest its marketing did not reach the widest of markets. If it did, what price then?
Re. OW 5555 which was recorded in J. Davey's book as being in that area as far back as the middle 70s:- it would appear that the vendors believe they are privy to information about the chassis of this, which the club are not. The debate is not closed so it would appear.
Interesting to know whether it was sold or not. Anyone fancy dipping their toe into enquiring at Kivels, on the basis that if it didn't sell then the vendors may wish to advertise it via. the club? If it was sold, then again it will no doubt be advantageous for the current owner to be introduced to the club. Many thanks, Gareth. p.s. Notice you are in the W. Country John, but your postings don't show a location for you. Always helpful to know. Wondered if you entered it your profile.
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Post by johng on Feb 15, 2016 12:50:31 GMT 1
Have updated my profile to show North Devon, let's see if I have done it correctly.
Thanks Bongo for tge article, lots of detail in it. I have a feeling that the author, Harry Edwards, may have been involved in the restoration of my car as he lived only 5 miles away from the restorer.
Have now discovered that the Big 9 van has registration RV 953 and is currently showing up as insured for the road. May take a trip down to Woolfardisworthy sometime, or Woolsery as it is known locally, and call in at the village garage, if it's still there, to see if they know of it.
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Post by ross59 on Apr 14, 2017 14:35:52 GMT 1
The SS1 introduced in 1932 had the Standard 16 chassis according to Brian Long's illustrated history of the Standard Motor Company. Your car appears to be the original Standard model on which the SS1 chassis was based. It is probably one of three original Standard 16s remaining, though there may be others hidden away,but that does not necessarily make it more valuable than the SS1 which is presumably now the more common car as so many Standard 16s have been scrapped. I would strongly advise you to have the car professionally valued. If it is a Standard car on a Standard chassis it will not be as valuable as an SS1 but still a rare and desirable car. Even if the car is said to be on an SS1 chassis it would need to have an authentic identity as an SS1 to be valued as such. Peter Lockley plockley, While Standard made the Chassis for the SS1, they were not a Standard 16 chassis. There were design changes made to these. They cannot be easily swapped for each other, due to the differential placement. I am intimately aware of the SS1 frame and the Standard it was derived from originally.
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